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Hi I have a multiple value select box that I want to store in a database this isnt unfortunately inside a CCK

any suggestions ?

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Hello, I'm new to drupal…I'm trying to add menu but instead I'm getting string ArrayArray…Can someone help me regarding this?

add a menu where?

Horizontal menu..top of the page.

and how are you trying to add to that menu?

I'm using Primary link.
I went to blocks and made it as header

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hook_link_alter?

http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/hook_link_alter

http://www.arsebook.org/

well … everyone knows that chx's …
What a anti social site :-/

just foun on digg
it's a good joke

well it can also break people … hope it'll not be me.
do you know my form problem … any idea … otherwise i have to show it to you next saturday ;-)

seen yched

yched was last seen in #drupal 2 days 8 hours ago saying ''night all - thx Crell for the block cache hint'.

In my custom views filter, I add_groupy() but then I want to add HAVING too, any hints?

hey guys

Can anyone explain to me why the version of system.module which is tagged DRUPAL-4-7-7 in the CVS repository has define(VERSION, '4.7.8') in it?

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i guess it's either a bug or the dev file

seems like the file got changed prematurely before the tag was added…

meta?

Simply ask your question. No need to ask to ask . Unless you are doing a census, asking whether anyone uses a module isn't going to result in a useful answer.

nah .. not meta … it's more knowing the answer beforehand ;-)

hmm… I think killes made a mistake when he upped the version.

Can someone tell me once more, how can I alter a core function? something involving phptemplate

That honey pot thingy is weird… Why wouldn't it check the first time an IP hits the site? I was using hte site just fine and then suddenly, bam, I'm suspicious? LOL

?

Yes?

which honey pot thing are you talking about ?

The one on drupal.org

nice I wasn't aware of this feature

bug killes
i guess if there will be another 4.7 release then 4.8 will be simply skipped

chx - Oh, is it not supposed to do that? I thought it was weird but just assumed that was how it worked
ping

the other day it blocked Dries.

Yeah, I heard that. I know it's blocking people it shouldn't, but I figured it would be the first time you hit a site in a day not after you'd been already using it
Oh, I wonder if it's because I went to the front page? Does it maybe only check there?

Please someone hint me how to override a core function…

actually is better coding a new modulo based on drpal 5 or drupal 6? OR both?

how is DAST doing

comick - It will likely be later in Fall, at least, before 6 is out, so it depends on your timeline

every time someone asks when D6 arrives it's delayed by two weeks

I got the hint to code for D6 and branch to D5 :-/ I'm developing for D5 now.

Heh… It'll never get out at that rate

rate +2 ;-)

exactly.
"I need the cool features and performance increases of Drupal 6, how can I help the release?"

How can i make a calculated field in a node preview?

if () {} else {} vs ? :

we like ? :
if it's not utterly ugly

in the coding standards we currently say that if () {} else {} as the example

Well, to be fair, he didn't ask when it would be out… Just what version to code against

shorter stuff…

chx:

in practice, core uses ? : notation 263 times

yes because we like the terniary
less chatty
file a patch against coding standards

so, we should update the documentation, right?

I hate that ? thingy… I can never figure out what it means
bI hate that ? thingy… I can never figure out what it means/b

doh!
$foo = isset($bar) ? $bar : '';
this , written with if else is just too long.

When I first started lookng at Drupal, I literally had no clue what it was at all and didn't know what to Google on to find out

btw, I couldn't resist .. form build cache and multistep now work in FAPI4!
just commited.

At least now I know what it's supposed to be… It's still hard to read, though

you are nutty as a fruitcake.

if first is true, then go with, but if it's false, then go with second

is there any module in drupal that automatically adds additional tags(something like atlas tags) to all hyperlinks

did that make sense?

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Hi there, is there a possibility to make *all* images in stories be shown as thumbnails and when you click on them opened via lightbox2?

Yeah, but it doesn't make it any clearer than if /else

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it's almost the same, but it uses less characters (less code)

I always prefer to use more code if it makes it easier to read
Comes from having to maintain my own code

Can I get feedback on my questions please?O:-) Are they difficult to understand, .unclear ..? I'm stuck and need feedback. (Tried it all day, with different phrases, no response)
It's a cool module too … http://image-composition.build2be.com/node/35

Sorry, ngnp, I don't know what dast is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_operation

DAST is cool but not my problem.

morphir - Yeah, I did say I know what it is now

http://drupal.org/project/DAST

ngnp - Oh… That's the only question I see from you in the recent s/b

My form preview is not what is supposed to be.

morphir - My point was that, even knowning what it is, it's still harder for me to read

pong

Or actually … my calculated field is not calculated. Shall I pastebin some code if that helps?

killes - chx said to tell you that I got blocked after I had already been using hte site… Went to a few pages and then hit the front page and was suddenly suspicious

yeh yeh. ? == if : == else
that's it

I know what it means… I've said that a couple times now…

can you PM me your IP?

Don't need to PM… Anyone can do /dns on me and get it 97.86.125.217
Heh, that's how I get it, actually. I /dns myself

thanks for the response though :-) … I know i'm missing something :-/

ngnp - Sorry, I don't know. Probably something doesn't get done when you're just previewing. Not the first time I've heard of code not working with previews

did you visit any other pages afterwards?

Not yet. Got caught up chatting here. Sec

seen eaton?

yeah. It's "The part of core that doesn't ship with core"'.

ok, now you went to the tracker. :p

Seems to be working ok

I'll paraphrase my question. Is it possible in drupal 5 to override functions?

yeah, but you shouldn't have been blocked in the first place…

I clicked the I am not a robot link and it went to the front page and then I came here and got caught up chatting

there's no evidence in the logs about you being blocked…
is there a chance your provider makes you switch IPs?

If I remember right, I went first to my tracker, then to my issues, then to the front page and the front page I got the suspicisious ip bit
It's a dynamic IP, but rarely changes… A few times a year, maybe, unless we turn off the router for a while

hmmm, very strange.

I know when it changes because then I lose access to my databases until I fix it

I need somebody to review that script.

It last changed about 3 weeks ago I think it was because we had the router off for a while

k thanks
the thing is that the IP blocking should be in the logs.
but your IP only shows p unblocked.
I've had that case more than once…

If it happens again, I'll let you know

k
well, you can try deleting the cookie

Ok, just a min
Oh, there's a notabot cookie. Cute
Do I need to delete the regular cookie or just that one?

only that on
e

I deleted that and opened a bunch of nodes and went to the front page and all seems fine

yeah, your IP isn't listed in the blocklist…
you should never hae been blocked…

this seems like the problem that Dries/DriesK had
some false positives…

I've been using the site as much as ever since the honeypot was added adn this was the first time
sepeck got hit once, too, I think he said

seen victorkane?

I will investigate use with actions/workflow first, keep to the straight and narrow!'.

!seen kentbye?

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damn!

seen hunmonk

hunmonk was last seen in #drupal 6 hours 26 min ago saying 'anybody around who can edit the contributor links block?'.

How do you get the parent local task to be selected when a non-default subtab local task is selected?

doesn't that just happen?
apparently not - but my limited experience made me think it did

let's say i add a tab node/[nid]/archive
and subtabs node/[nid]/archive/one node/[nid]/archive/two

Looking at the SOC list… There's some nice stuff there

if i go to two, and it's not the default, archive no longer highlights

weird

do you recall which page you isited before you got logged out?

killes - I went to the front page and it brought up the suspicious ip message. I clicked the link saying I"m not a bot and it continued on to the front page. It never logged me out.

yeah, I meant the suspicious ip page.

hi

which page on d.o did you visit before you went to the fp?

I _think_ it was my issue tracker page… I tend to open lots of pages in tabs so I'm not positive

one small question - I want to loop through all users belonging to a certain role, is there a drupal function that would let me do that, or should i write a query?

Usually first thing each day I go straight to my tracker and open any changed posts there (was none today) then to my issues then to my groups unread then to the all post tracker
Today I went to the front page because I wanted to see the new posts block
Mornin' add1sun

mornin Michelle
hi all

what I meant was - what is the best way to find users with a certain permission?

hey killes

users and filter by role.

also try #drupal-support

mmm
not what I meant

catch__, this is code
it belongs here
noy -support

in my module I need to email all users that have a permission 'get blah blah emails'

ah ok np. Still getting used to how these channels work.

I can always write a join query, just thought there should be a more drupalish way
s/should/might

hm, do you have the user object?

there's a module that does that…

no

pastebin?

Please don't paste code directly into IRC. Please use http://drupal.pastebin.com or http://drupal.pastebin.co.uk or http://pastebin.ca

http://drupal.org/project/mass_contact

http://drupal.pastebin.com/m2070cac2

sadly in drupal5 I don't know anyone who _really_ knows that stuff
can you find examples of what you want that actually do work?

It works on the block admin page

and on admin/build/themes/settings/bluemarine

yes

qsrv, also if you have user_load for each user you will get the list of roles

I guess take a look at those…

but if you don't need to load them all

if you haven't

i have

heh

but that's a bit inefficient

qsrv, right
not suggesting you do it but letting you know in case in the future

and I can't use the mass contact module, since I need to send specific emails every time there's a new EC transaction

hi!

Hi, I have a multiple value select box that I want to store in a database (this isn't, unfortunately, inside a CCK type), is there a nice easy way of storing it - something like serialize I guess, but I dont know what people normally do?

my god, does Drupal services really store role permissions in a comma-separated list?

I am a bit out of ideas…

remember those good old fashioned "sound to light" things in discos? Well, my monitor started flicking to the music, whacky

it turns out the only time it seems to work is when $may_cache is TRUE

(Mmm, answering myself, given the other thread - I guess implode with a ',' !

killes - I don't know what else to tell you… The only thing unusual I did today was going to the front page. I don't normally go there.

it is pretty clear to me that the error is somewhere either on drupal's side or on the httpbl side…

yes it does
and it's fast
because then it doesn't need to select * FROM permission

but if I want to find all roles with a certain permission, it's not that nice

hehe yes

killes - Maybe put something in the message that says if you're not a bot that you should send an email with your IP and what you were doing at the time? Might get more data to track it
Yay.. Looks like NickJr is back to the normal schedule. (Yeah, totally OT, but I'm happy because it's pissing rain here and I need to keep my son entertained )
Also need to feed him so afk a while

seen xamox?

xamox was last seen in #drupal-soc 17 hours 58 min ago saying 'drewish, that worked for me, thanks'.

Make that Views_Bonus issue, you lazy bum ;-) .

any views experts around?

Acidfree says "Acidfree albums" all over the place … I want it just to say ""
Albums
How can I do this?
: )
Also, where is the RSS icon in node? I don't see it in the default theme.
node.tpl.php

someone wanna do this? http://www.lullabot.com/articles/how_drupal_will_save_world#comment-1874
it's in page.tpl.php
php print $feed_icons ?

thanks.

sed -i -e "s/Acidfree albums/Albums/gi" acidfree.module

Gotta find out how to add to "feed
"feed_icons" for the Export module.
Off to work, I'll be back in an hour.

hmm, yeah

I have just been playing with the bulk 'unblock' functionality from the admin user page and noticed it does not send account approval emails when used. Is this by design or a bug?

I believe this is intended.
Drupal normally does not send mails when you edit an account.

the scenario that made this apparent was this. We have users sign up and await approval.. There are about 500 pending accounts. If we edit each individually and set status to active then they get the 'admin approval' proforma. If we try a bulk activation (or unblocking), this mail does not
get sent.

oh, that would be a bug, i guess.

If, as you say, this is by design then I suppose we have no choice but to write something to override this behaviour. I would have assumed that it worked differntly
ah ok.. well we will have a look at patching it

there is/was a similar issue with the mass node edit form.

what core module handles this?

file an issue, attach patch.
user.module

thanks.. we just submitted another user.module patch so I might just roll them together

please keep them separate.

will do
cheers

anyone know where a good example of a drupal_set_breadcrumb call is?
#1 thing d.o documentation needs is examples, it's hard to know what to pass some of these functions parameter wise.
I assume I need an array, i'm just not sure what form the array needs to be in:o

beeradb, api should have a list of examples

for any function, do:

check out the list references for a function
http://api.drupal.org/api/function/drupal_set_breadcrumb/5/references

Oh, add1sun beat me to it.

heh, learned from the mastah!

Hey all, we're looking for a teacher for the dojo a week from sunday. Anyone wanna do it?
dojo?

http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-dojo

The dojo for those of you who don't know is a group of people who get together each weekend and learn from a teach
er

dmitrig01, i though peter was sighned up
on sept 2

dmitrig01, i though peter was sighned up

on sept 2

really?
cool

last i heard senpai rescheduled him for that

Any luck with that MSU-Bozeman theme?

http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/573-contextual-advertising
a href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/573-contextual-advertising"http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/573-contextual-advertising/a

thanks for the heads up webchick/add1sun

np
The API site needs a little love, but overall it's a great resource.
You just have to kind of dig a little sometimes.

He's in. pwolanin is teaching http://groups.drupal.org/node/4273

12 IRC mentions

using some of your panels logic for a module fyi . giving credit though.

So, there are only two hooks to override for writing customized auth modules?

what kind of module?

db_fetch_array - trying to migrate a 4.7 cck field into node_revisions.body - this is progress so far but it doesn't do anything: http://pastebin.ca/665679

I think I can make it to Froscon on Sunday!

are you coming to Barcelona as well?

nice!

do you have a laptop? if not, I can lend one…. i am in the process of selling my dell x1

I have a meeting for Ecuador from tomorrow till sunday morning, and it is near bonn, so I'll just come over afterwards

what happened?

I'll have a laptop

he bought a new laptop

I got Tank, I do not need the Dell

a UI module for creating tabs.

unfortunately, presumably not…

but that was like a week ago?

I'm leaving to Ecuador for a few month at sept. 30th, and I'm not sure whether I'll be able to go to barcelona before …

i still have not sold my Dell, that takes time

"creating tabs"…? You mean sort of like tabbed panels?

aw. I really wanted to meet you and thank you for the schema API in person.

webchick:

bjaspan i think will be there

Yes, but I already met Bjaspan.

true. I just was wondering what *new thing* had happened, I already knew about your überTank

no , nothing new.
in Sunnyvale? I can't remember, so many people.

sort of. on the short, its tabbed anything, but using jqTabs.

Yeah, Sunnyvale..one sec.

then see first if this does what you want: http://wimleers.com/demo/mini-panels
tabbed panels are already available, if that's what you need, no need to duplicate the effort

AH, i like. thank goodness i had just started . yeah, a little hacking and this will do the trick (need it for a current project).
how stable are your mini-panels?

Weird!
The guy doesn't seem to have ANY pictures online.

ok, this is what you need: the CVS version of Panels 2 (or alpha 8 when it gets released). And this module: http://drupal.org/project/panels_tabs.

hmm…..k….i'll eval today.
just this site is going into production fairly soon, so alpha makes me a bit uneasy.

ehm… it's as stable as the rest of the Panels API. panels_mini itself is super simple code. The more complex changes were made in the panels module itself, to allow for panel styles. Any panels implementation can use it.
in that case, use Panels 1, and install the panelsblock module.
http://drupal.org/project/panelsblock

gracias.

np
forgot to mention this: the panelsblock module also has support for tabs.

yeah…just read that…hm…
i'd like to use panels2 + mini, but don't now how much of a pain any upgrade paths would be.
do your mini's come with the carousel ?

Somebody needs to write a simple core module for d.o that looks for "dropal", and changes it to "Drupal". That little bastard word is everywhere!

Also, a module that changes all instances of the word 'feature' to 'pony'

unicorn schnapps pony?

Hmm.. Just did the survey… Ordering 5 items when there's more than 5 items isn't a very good UI

Can I have a pony too? puh-wees?

I want a pony and a pony clean up afterer

hi all,

Wow, that's quite a name

I just said the same thing to myself, Michelle

Hehe

i have problem, i wanna specify my front-page , please help me

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At this point, the only reason that Panels 2 is still called Alpha is that i refuse to go to beta until it has all the features that I plan in.
But after 7 versions, it's actually reasonably stable.

woah, the htaccess file changed from D5.1 to D5.2!

thx.

http://drupal.org/node/167367 ought to make mention of that

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anyone from Italy who comes to Barcelona, pm me please.

you go with your bad-ass doc team skillz you.

I believe Zlender is going to italy and flying from there
but I'm not sure

The only change I see is the addition of "php_value mbstring.http_input | pass".
Is that even worth writing about?

oh
well, i need someone who have a little time in Italy…

I have no idea what that php parameter even affects.

i think i'm going to use this, prob. decide tonight, but i'll prob. also be posting bug fixes/patches, etc. i'll also provide feed back as to how the upgrade went.

are you the person who gave me code to make imagecache work with image nodes?

nope
I do not write working code :P

me too!

That'll be awesome. The upgrade is the roughest part, so please go the extra mile on backups

OK, I need someone to help me explain what the new lines in the 5.2 htaccess file do. Help?

. no worries. working on my local copy first

It's the line(s) that state "php_value mbstring.http_input" and output
http://drupal.org/node/167367

me too, mines in apache virtualhost and forgot to update.

2 IRC mentions

It needs some lovin'
Help a brotha out

upgrade went well, but i think it should enable panels-pages by default asi had to enabled that manually. i'll take a dive into the actual upgrade script later this week sometime prob.

Yea, that's probably true.

love the panels module though . saves much much time.
"mucho" i guess is a better word.

ok, I think I got it. Due to a bug in the way we process ip addresses the wrong IP might have got checked.

Panels2 should ship by default with the notBlog install profile, doncha think?
(notBlog == Any site that's not a blog)

What is the best function to display a view of a node in my own custom function that will look similar to what you can do with hook_view? or can I use hook_view inside of other functions ie. $output .= hook_view(….)

I think when it's out of alpha, yes it should.
And it should probably also come with a default front page that's a panel with some demonstration areas.

What's the security risk with the 5.1 version of settings.php? I never did figure that out.

The next version of Panels will have default panels justl ike default views.

How cool would THAT be?!

ping

hm..anyone know of a bug with jquery_update ?

i hope to introduce a new allow/deny handling for drupal_is_denied(), which use regex instead of SQL mapping rules. may someone help about its review? http://drupal.org/node/168403#comment-292229

Drupal, database system, critical, patch (code needs review), 1 IRC mention

seems whever i enable it, does this funny thing with collapses where you can click them twice then they stop working.
hey, what was the sql server issue you were having?

?

you had mentioned right before i was heading out for the night the other night.

both Oracle and DB2 are ready for testing
MSSQL face some critical bug and so stopped for a while

cool. my black boxes arrive thrusday, so i'm hoping to get a public sandbox…i cought up on the thread a bit a couple days ago…probley read the rest of it tommorrow.

cool idea

BTW, i think it is around 80% for MSSQL

that query is currently the most often occurring one in the slow query log.

isn't it flexibile, and not much query. also cached
i try to clone this handling from mailman

Hi, i recently creaded a new module (iconizer)

I like

I do "Commit" for the first time.. .now I have to create a Release or I have to create a branch first?

branch first
always always always
quickstart?

quickstart is http://drupal.org/handbook/cvs/quickstart

read that

thanks!

np

it's a version that I call "hey, try it and let me know how it works" what "version" do you suggest tu use? DRUPAL-5–x-y

You don't branch to specific versions by the way.

what function installs the DB tables in the installer?

sorry.. I mean TAG

I think that happens when it installs the modules (largely system module)

is it acceptable for a Drupal 5.0 module to demand MySQL 4.0 ?

well first, branch it DRUPAL-5, then tag it DRUPAL-5–1-0-beta maybe

not 4.1
just 4.0

ok! thankyou … DRUPAL-5–1-0-BETA

where does it do that?

may someone help about this 2 patches review? they just to standardize the use of db_query(), which should ready to be commit with no question: http://drupal.org/node/165141 and http://drupal.org/node/166593

DRUPAL-5–x-y looks a lot like DRUPAL-5-e-x-y. Hee!

Drupal, database system, critical, patch (code needs review), 1 IRC mention

seen pwolanin

Drupal, database system, critical, patch (code needs review), 1 IRC mention

look - I think you either you need to write a little module, or just put your TOS in a text file and load that file in.'.

Probably in the default profile.

hmm, ok

the regexp stuff isn't immediately clear, you should heavily comment it.

you means the example?

the function where you reteie the data from the database.
I am not 100% sure your implementation is faster

oic, you means comment more about the code?

yes

I Created a Branch and then I Tagged my module "DRUPAL-5–1-0-BETA now on module home page what I have to do? Add a release or CVS creates it from cvs repository?

you add it

i think the rebuild of cache woon't be too fast, but the "use" of processed result should be fast enough with no question

ok, thankyou …

np
it'll be packaged within 5 minutes IIRC

ok! let me know if you test it

hopefully

i think this will need a complete benchmarking for a solid supporting, which i may do it afterward
BTW, i hope to review its idea and possibility in current status, or else benchmarking is just meaningless

"cvs commit: Using deprecated info format strings. Convert your scripts to use
the new argument format and remove '1's from your info file format strings."

yeah
it does that for everyone

ok, nothing wrong?

yup

ok, thankyou … I supposed that I have done some mistakes…

quick question - how do i pass a parameter to a function e.g. ?q=goodmail/message_view&folder=INBOX&msgno=2
e.g. how do i read it inside of my message_view thingy

q=goodmail/message_view/folder/INBOX/mesgno/2 for example
q=goodmail/message_view/INBOX/2 if you always know that the second arg is the folder, the third the message
you'll want to look at the menu API

thx killes

ping

pong

what about i close down the #drupal-soc for this year?
SoC is, well, over .

Sure.
Well.
They might want it for another couple weeks to socialize,etc.

OK, I will close it after Barcelona, fair enough?

Sure.

closing down means, i will set up a channel forward and kick every lurker
they got one month advance notice

ok

anyone know the status for the phplist module for 5.x?

I have another question for you: in Updates my module din't get linked with updates… why?

huh?

in my list in admin/logs/updates I get my module listed, but without a link to the module-homepage like others.. I miss something in .info?

yeah

can anyone help? http://drupal.org/node/169270

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you need to download not from CVS, but from the download page
for the link to work

it's what I did! I downloaded it from projects/iconizer

odd

maybe I have to flush "updates" cache?

maybe

yep … but I donno how!

TRUNCATE cache_update

nothing changed

thePanz:
maybe you just have to wait a bit

k…

ping

pong

http://drupal.org/node/164983 I'd be willing to help

Drupal, database system, critical, patch (code needs work), 1 IRC mention

Great! That's the loneliest patch in the queue.

Hmm. Six queues, that could be worse.
er

so - what do you want me to document first?

I have been going through alphabetically and left off at think locale module.
So you could start on menu_* or you could start at z and work your way back up.

I'll start from the bottom

Awesome. Thanks!

when calling a drupal_get_form() can I pass it arguments? the same way that path arguments would be passed?

just take note of how foreign keys are documented.
referenced {node}.nid
references*
that way schema API can parse it and create the relationships.

t("Action's {action}.aid."),?
???'),

Yeah,if you can fill in any of those, that'd be great too.
most are in agrregator.module I think

I dunno either
maybe you can add a few feeds and see what the fields are
/do

Or maybe you could do that.

nah - I'm to lazy

TBH, it's tedious enough adding in the descriptions and re-formatting the arrays. I figure I'll go back at the end and pick up the TODOs,
and/or wait for someone to help.

I'm not sure if this is appropriate for -support or here, but I'm trying to figure out why drupal is making outbound connections to aggregator_feed hosts when I request cron.php from the site
specifically because if it can't make the outbound connection it doesn't service the cron.php one (at least not for a very long time)

ping

is there a way to tell javascript/ajax/jquery what callback to use? Depending on clean-url's or private files?

seen heine?

dinner)'.

!seen heine

Heine (n=Miranda@s5590c843.adsl.wanadoo.nl) was last seen quitting from #drupal 6 days, 19 hours, 49 minutes ago stating (Client Quit).

pong

i'm being a bit late with my demo site, but it's now online

pretend clean URLs aren't enabled

could you please add it to the announcement page?
http://www.petsovits.at/versioncontrol/

Yep. One sec.

thanks!

But how to push the base_path then? (This work local http://dev/?q=image_composition/get_image_url_by_id)

base_path()), 'setting')

somewhere in PHP
and thne in JS you can call Drupal.settings.basePath

cool … that's what i looked for! Thanks :-)

http://drupal.org/project/iconizer
bad license

so, what's the danger of upgrading two or three modules at once, and then running update.php when you've gotten all the desired modules uploaded? Any way that one could fake out the others and steal it's cookies?

cookies cookies or just cookies metaphorically speaking

I meant chocolate chip cookies

and here's my issue: http://drupal.org/node/169281

Iconizer, Miscellaneous, normal, active, 1 IRC mention

that seems unlikely to me

sorry, bad meta4

thanks!

I have seen some modules do funny things like making their own weight "module X weight + 10"
but I think in general that is safe
I do that _all_ the time - I always backup the db first
I think that's easier, really, since you can make the db backup once - update your 10 modules - if it's broken rollback and if it works delete that backup

It seems unlikely to me too, but I read a forum post once, back when I first started drupalling, and they encouraged the running of update.php after every module update, as in a one-at-a-time scenario. I've never seen it addressed in the handbooks.

the world is full of enormous amounts of enormously bad information
maybe I'm an idiot!

No Way!
ok, I'll just do it the easy way then.
Since I have a site that'ss demanding I feed it at least ten updated modules today so it'll shut up.

i just updae some document for drupal_is_denied patch. would you mind to have a look?

no, url?

Senpai - I do mine in batches… I'll update a bunch, run update, see if the site broke, if not, do another bunch

that's probably a good idea

I also tend to do any modules that are really complex and more likely to break seperately
When you're a module addict, keeping them updated is a full time job

http://drupal.org/node/168403#comment-292290

update_status is a godsend. LOL

Drupal, database system, critical, patch (code needs review), 2 IRC mentions

Can we disable D.org's search?

why?
you keep asking that
I don't get why

It's really crawling again

The site is slow.

Dropping search makes it go faster

http://www.kvw.be/deco/
that's pretty cool
pity the other theme doesn't have a emo too

No feather proessing?

http://head.kkaefer.dyndns.org

does it work with all the block configurations ?
it also has a color directory
but it contains garland's images

I suspect it's not totally ready
it still has some rough edges

sorry that not understand… i think it is already enought for functioning?
or something still missing?

when using the viewsAPI is there a way to make the filters exposed?

you made the comment "No feather processing" in the code and I have no idea what you mean by it.

lol… is further more…
just miss typing… please forgive that…

seen rconstantine

Sorry, I haven't seen rconstantine.

Whether or not a filter is exposed is purely an administrative choice.
You can't force filters to be exposed in the api.

merlinofchaos, alright, thx.

Hi all, I've been trying to install drupal for a while now and it's giving me a pain. First off, I can't access any PHP based applications on httpd despite having php installed, any ideas?

there should be in views 2
support?

Please direct support questions to the volunteers in #drupal-support or on the Drupal forums. #drupal is a place to discuss and help with code, advocacy, documentation, infrastructure, and pretty much everything else.

^

ok, thanks … moving to #drupal-support

I am in drupal/admin/content/node if I activate the breadcrumb will I see links back to admin?
wrong channel too I suppose

No, exposed filters are an administrative decision.

Hm. I think I put on my wrong glasses. How do I create a new project on drupal.org? I've got some modules I've been working on, and I'm ready to let them out into the world.
The "Create Content" menu has only "Book page", "Forum topic", and "Issue". Are my new modules one of those things?

you need a CVS account
drupal.org/node/59 to get one

Aha. Thanks.

what is the 'best practice' to set up a node comment like system (threaded, like a forum, revisable)

does the update status module query for all modules or only those that are enabled?

Only those enabled.

cool. i had a little panic about that. it would sure make a mess of usage otherwise… especially with the multisites with a bunch of modules in the all/modules directory

Yep
Probably use nodecomment.module
Tho I guess nodecomment doesn't currently support threading
But forums are rarely threaded

i'm trying to achieve like a question/answer functionality
sort of wiki style with the answers, so people can edit them, revise them, etc
I know I can achieve it by several different methods, but I don't know which way is the cleanest, the 'prefered' way, and how I can link them together in the view
I guess threading isn't important really

You might take a look at taxonomy lineage; it sets up a nested trees pattern to 'thread' nodes by taxonomy term. While that's not quite what you want, you could probably copy what it does.

nodecomment does support threading now, IIRC

Oh sweet!

Robert Douglas added it, I believe it's in CVS

if it's in CVS, is that the current release or not

I don't know

branch intro
woops, wrong room, my bad

guys/girls, is there a security channel for drupal?

Yes, but it's invite only

ok, then is there a mailing list I could write to?

chx?
Hang on, macOnki

hi

k

/join #drupal-security

thank you Michelle

are CCK fields fed to the search indexer?

the Drupal logo is copyrighted, righit?
seen unconed?
where's Druplicon?

botsmack!
huf

I have a theme installed which doesn;t seem to support secondary tabs under /user, and I can't where what would be causing this
The tabs aren't even in the source code when viewed from a browser, they just aren't there in one theme, but there in all other ones

what do you want to use it for…? it's either gpl or cc

And the odd thing is that there are styles defined for the second tabs in the CSS, but they just don't appear

ah, ok
ah right, it's in cvs

Anyone know where I might even begin to start looking at this?

as vector

http://drupal.org/node/74808

so, there doesn't happen to be a module out there that allows you to set the ordering of a node_reference in a cck type?

kkaefer:
[[
8Component: web site » Site
Status: active » closed
it is well documented that the druplicon is under gpl. closing this one
]]

Drupal.org webmasters, Site organization, normal, closed, 1 IRC mention

Has anyone tried to get indexing on CCK fields through the search module?
bueller?

seen ajk^?

ajk^ was last seen in #trellon 41 min 2 sec ago saying 'yes, indeed'.

ajk^: ping

seen yched

yched was last seen in #drupal 2 days 15 hours ago saying ''night all - thx Crell for the block cache hint'.

format_plural?

http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/format_plural

Are we "officially" against URL aliases on d.o, or can I add some aliases to select handbook pages as I see fit? sepeck?

There's some pages already aliased, so not against it

You have to have more privileges than I do to add aliases

Right you are, Michelle. I just want to know if that causes any extra slowdown, or might be bad in any way.

No, aliases are an O(1) slowdown

Yeah, you need a site admin for it
What's O(1)?

There's a slowdown by having 1, but there is no additional slowdown after 1.
Order of 1.

Ah

Magnitudes of Aliases!
I like it

tabs?
primary_tabs?

Math geeks refer to efficiency of an algorithm with "Order of" and it's abbreviated O(…). There's O(1), O(n), O(n^2) and O(log n) as the most common.
er, that was to michaelfavia
Michelle
not michaelfavia

merlinofchaos needs more coffee

Ah, intersting

hello all

and then comes O(e^n) and that's when people run screaming :P

Yea. I was thinking 2^n but e^n works too.

I'm sure I've heard of O(n^n) at some point. Probably just because it could be done

oh, gack! I think I've just run into a module roadblock where a Signup.module-enabled node can't also be an ecommerce-enabled node. Thus, I can't make a conference signup form that accepts credit cards. Dangit!

Eeeeee

bleh, O(A(n,n)) can be done!

Hey I remember proving that dx (x/x) = e once.
er, wait.

heh, the Rube-Goldberg machine of algorithms

dx(x^x) = e
Or was it e^x? Damn apparently it's gbeen too long.

I would like love long enough to see some O(A(n,n)) problems solved, just for, say, 7-8 :P

I don't think I know what A(n,n) is…

Aha.. I've found the following in my page.tpl.php under the theme directory… Where does $tabs come from in Drupal?
php if ($tabs != ""): ?
div class="tabs"php print $tabs ?/div
php endif; ?

wikipedia ackerman function
they come phptemplate.engine

thanks

look phptemplate_page , 'tabs' =

Ackermann function makes computers sad and humans slightly crazy.

Ahhh, excellent. That gives me somewhere to start
thanks chx

O(A(n,n)) for any non-trivial value of n is borderline silly :p

n,n
n,n (x)
boom!

chx, if you never seen this, http://www.xkcd.com/207/
chx, see 4th block
3rd, even

menu… i thought it was in hook_menu but now i'm not so sure

that's mean

I'm looking inside content_taxonomy and CCK module code. Where $node_field is coming from?
I see this $node_field = isset($node-$field['field_name']) ? $node-$field['field_name'] : array();
soooo where $node-$field['field_name'] is popilated by values?

hook_menu is the answer but it adds it to navigation. not necessarily the administrative menu (if you've branched those out) just make sure user_access is correct to restrict its access to those with permission

Somebody put a lot of work into that

hook_menu?

http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/hook_menu

Maybe your "type" is wrong?

would you post that as a followup in that issue?
they do have affiliate links to hosting on their home page - which they should probably remove if they want to be "official"
^^

Hm. That could be rough though; I assume those affiliate links are how they effectively get paid for that work.

I think that should be the tradeoff - to get the official traffic they should get rid of the affiliate links
nobody else has advertising/aff links like that
that line their own pockets…

ok, i have two URL's in my _menu function, and i access my modules my manually typing them into my browser; they aren't in the menu, maybe i left something out of my _menu function to adds it into the nav menu?
my type is MENU_CALLBACK, i think i just copied and pasted that from somewhere - i really don't know what it means

Yea, but why would they want official traffic?
At some point, traffic is a burden.

putting a "hosted by example.com" at the bottom and on example.com have the affiliate links?

read the API.. if you don't know what it means.. go find out. its not difficult… It be immensely beneficial for you to read the API
I could tell you but "teaching someone to fish" is better.. go read the API.. the answer is right on the front page

further question - let's say we don't point it to themegarden.com - do you see any point in removing the subdomain?

Ok, that could probably be acceptable. It's not TOO different from what they have now.

right

I don't; removing it leads to link rot.

YES
can you please post that into the issue

you the man… i was at the API earlier and just didn't read it carefully enough… i need to slow down when i read ;p thanks again

no problem..

menu_secondary_local_tasks?

http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/menu_secondary_local_tasks

seen davidstrauss?

it turns out the only time it seems to work is when $may_cache is TRUE'.

Looking at their site, that's actually *better* than what they have now, I think, since they'd get a link to their 'we host this' on every page, rather than just the top page.

yeah - could be "win win"
I think those are good

menu_get_local_tasks?

http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/menu_get_local_tasks

be very careful to always look at teh 5.x vresions
6.x menu is totally new

Aye, am doing so
$_menu?

You might add that idea to the issue; I wrote mine before you brought it up

feel inspired to complain about linkrot?

I will.
I hate linkrot

yay

I'm cleaning up the e-commerce docu linkys right now

well

Hey, is it proper to urge the use of the latest dev version of ecommerce for generic use, even though there's an erlier 5.x-3.3 release?

I think that's up to the ecommerce folks
where are you urging it?

They are.

ask gordon I reckon

module
http://drupal.org/node/50364

2 IRC mentions

well what?

complain about linkrot here: http://drupal.org/node/167346

Drupal.org infrastructure, Other, normal, active, 3 IRC mentions

or perhaps that's a bit much at this point

53714

6 IRC mentions

aside from that page, i do not support d5 menu

Ahh
np, I'm just tracing this code to see where my secondary tabs are going missing atm

yes, but in about four hours.
i always complain about linkrot

complain about linkrot here: http://drupal.org/node/167346

Drupal.org infrastructure, Other, normal, active, 4 IRC mentions

seen m3avrck?

m3avrck was last seen in #drupal 8 weeks 3 days ago saying 'well worked on a project with others that did that'.

does anyone know what's up with ted?

see http://tedserbinski.com/

seen m3*

Sorry, I haven't seen m3*.

seen m4avrck?

Sorry, I haven't seen m4avrck.

seen m3a*?

m3avrck was last seen in #drupal 8 weeks 3 days ago saying 'well worked on a project with others that did that'.
get a mac, and bootcamp and you're fine '.

lol

oh, right.

I know, he left lullabot

read the rest of it - it seems wine, m3, working with mothersclick

hmm, but he's still active http://drupal.org/user/12932/track
or at least a bit

See #12 http://drupal.org/node/167346

Drupal.org infrastructure, Other, normal, active, 5 IRC mentions

ouch. I came across as overbearing.

too late!

noooo! There's no edit button! I canna censor myself!

that would take dww or similar
besides, the mail is already sent to the infrastructure list

and he's gone on an alps vacation or something

can some one help me with some documentation or tips on how i can override the default drupal Drupal.textareaAttach.endDrag function?

I'll do it
don't worry
I'll get to it later today

will you promise to always use the right style of commit messages?

ROTFL

anyone know why user profiles tabs don't like to be altered by a hook_menu_alter()?

I have a strange issue on my site, one of the links in a menu is not appearing correctly but the configuration for it is identicle to the other links
www.mrintegrity.net look at the Ubuntu link
the extrainious url in the destination is not in the url when i specify it!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c54/fatmikey916/weather_balloon.jpg

ok, this is strange, i just updated the menu item to point to www.test.org and it says the menu item has been updated but there has been no change on the site?

LOL redLED

what is the correct style of commit messages?

issue#, short description, author

I'm closer on our "delete aliases by type" idea
I've got options for all, user, node, taxonomy, blogs
I guess I need tracker and a few others

ooooh, stupendious!

can anyone tell me why the url www.ubuntu.org is being changed to http://mrintegrity.net/?q=www.ubuntu.org when i update the menu entry?

e.g. "#555555: fixed code style. Patch by dmitrig01"

10
1) put the http:// in front of it

ok i'll try to stick to that

doh

2) that is a support question
support?

Please direct support questions to the volunteers in #drupal-support or on the Drupal forums. #drupal is a place to discuss and help with code, advocacy, documentation, infrastructure, and pretty much everything else.

thanks

52287?
52287

2 IRC mentions

^^
you're close, but also wrong :p

heh

thanks for the tip, did the trick. apologies for not reading hte topic

tracker, and maybe those pesky cck node fields too?

no problem

naw, never mind. That makes no sense.

but do "those pesky cck node fields" get aliases?
heh

nope.
They'd have to have been done by a Luser
and thus, non-automatic!
Inconceivable!

what are you even talking about?

never mind
it was fooling
foolish

ok

hm. I'm trying to use hook_xmlrpc, but it seems to be caching the results. How would I turn that caching off?

hook_xmlrpc?

http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/hook_xmlrpc

Right, I've been there.

I was getting that for me

Oh, Druplicon is a robot?

bot?

Are you talking to me?

bot:help?

help?
bot?

Are you talking to me?

druplicon?

I am Drupal's bot.module, coded and hosted by Morbus Iff. More at http://drupal.org/project/bot - plugins are easy, and patches are welcome!

Ah, it's a Marvin.

http://drupal.org/node/108355

20 IRC mentions

hrm

at the bottom of that is more about Druplicon

hi

Hi!

i am supposed to be the xml-rpc maintainer until at least D5.0

what makes you say that the hook_xmlrpc result is getting cached?

that's a very good question.
there are very few static vars in xmlrpc.inc

Because I'm getting back the same result every time, even after I've hard-coded the result to something else. It's possible I'm somehow calling the wrong xml function, I suppose, but I don't know how to test for that.

add watchdog statements to xmlrpc.inc

some pastebin will likely help if you can sanitize urls from whatever you're working on

that helps

pastebin?

Please don't paste code directly into IRC. Please use http://drupal.pastebin.com or http://drupal.pastebin.co.uk or http://pastebin.ca

could i install drupal on winxp ?

support?

Please direct support questions to the volunteers in #drupal-support or on the Drupal forums. #drupal is a place to discuss and help with code, advocacy, documentation, infrastructure, and pretty much everything else.

I had heard that drupal caches data for anonymous users.

now wait
are we talking of an xmlrpc server

could i manage tar files on winxp?

or an xmlrpc client
fireglow26[SUST]: that support was for you

I am installing an xmlrpc service in drupal.

DOH!

I am testing it by using an xmlrpc client that tries to call it.

fireglow26[SUST]: support?

sorry, i am tired today, of course, hook_xmlrpc…

yes
i wanna install drupal on winxp

Druplicon, tell fireglow26[SUST] support

i know xampp

Drupal only caches GET requests

you waited longer than I thought you would that time

XML-RPC is POST

Well, that tells me something, then.

select count(1), substr(src,1,5) from url_alias group by substr(src,1,5);

we have the new "be nice" rule.

Yes… alright. So, what the heck am I successfully querying that's returning weird data? Hmmm.

I hope webchick have not seen me kicking the guy

if she had seen him floundering it would be up to her to save him
or some other nice soul - you were nice enough
pounce!

phew

greggles, http://rafb.net/p/xuhFAj93.html

see pm

I didn't get your pm… ?

anyone knows what's up with squidster?

ah

Oh! *hits head with mallet* Okay, I think I see a problem with my client coding that may be causing my problem. I shall meditate on this.

I got your mail! i am thinking about answers! I'm also AFK for a couple minutes

no worries
can you explain the diari, membe, priva, and whatt entries?

join drupal-dojo

hi
what does the has_body key do in hook_node_info ?

allows for a body text-area defined from hook_node_info

I'm "patching" the weblink type from the Links package to no longer have a required body for a link

vacation, IIRC

oh. good.

ok thx

is there a standard/reliable way to "copy" a node?

$node = node_load(nid); unset($node-nid); node_save($node)
or clone module
?

thx, i'm doing that but having problems when using in conjunction with localizer

well, try doing a drupal_set_message(print_r($variables,true)) at the very top of node_save in node.module
and then create a few nodes manually
that will tell you what needs to be populated and how

ping
i did it ^_^.

Hmm. Apache is complaining that it doesn't understand the request.

greggles, those look like views at a glance
greggles, lemme double check

ok, interesting

greggles, but I mix pathauto plus put some custom ones in myself

sure

so it's probably confusing things

I'm creating a "delete aliases by type" feature and want to make sure I'm not ignoring types
so far, blog, user, tracker, node, taxonomy

yeah those point to views. hmm interesting greggles and the substr() is the only way to group things? sounds dangerous

the substr is just to gather information

seen seraph

I think it uses that for a separator. is it causing problems for you?'.

I'll be deleting based on src like 'node/%' and similar patterns

cool, sounds good. well sounds better than a delete based on a substr grouping

indeed

Anyone with experience using hook_xmlrpc? I'm having trouble with it - I'm getting told "Bad Request"

I am still here.

I'm wondering if I set my client up wrong, right now…
Hey! Apparently I did. Silly client.
HOkay. Problem lays between keyboard and chair. I'm good now. Thanks.

ping dopry

is there a function to check if a node exists?

node_load()?

I thought about that. Wasn't sure if that was too intensive for a check.. I may give that a shot.

do you need the node?

well, the xmlrpc library is now so time tested that only i and a few other "greybeards" call it the new xmlrpc library
it would be quite a surprise if it would be fundamentally flawed

even later on

it's two years old, now.

if yes, use node_load()

I ported IXR to Drupal two years and a month ago.

I do later but, I just want to check if it exists by nid before I do load it.. just in case someone enters an out of range # in the query string.

node loads are cached

I'm not disagreeing with you. The problem was with how I had constructed my test client.

i.e. if you load the node for the second time, you're just fetching it from the cache

That's what I tried to say above.

Drupal FTW

ok.. well.. that certainly will help

write th client in Drupal :P

so you can load the node if you're checking for its presence

I wanted something quick and dirty. That's what I currently have.

anyone know of any stats on Drupal? How many sites are out there with the codebase? etc?

impossible to say

excellent.. thanks for that help.. I will try this route..

I figured as much. Any guesstimate?

There was a fingerprinting technique that revealed somewhere in the 100,000s
But that only worked on English sites

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,060,000 for inurl:taxonomy/term. (0.17 seconds)

with login
Wow!

i have a data structure (an array with various keys, etc) that i want to present in a particular way (header, body, etc). would FAPI would be the right thing to use?

if (is_object(node_load($nid))) worked for me

dag. that's a lot. Way to change the internet!

thanks

you can leave out is_object
since the return value is NULL or FALSE

good point.. thanks

Hello all.

lol @ PerlJam
Awesome handle.

Thanks. It's worked for the last 15 years, I figure it continues to work

I pasted that previous pathauto query into phpmyadmin, and got 0 rows returned. Is that right or wrong? I feel cheated somehow. /me pouts

Results 1 - 10 of about 567,000 for "Enter the password that accompanies your username.". (0.17 seconds)
A couple hundred thousand Drupal sites. Maybe a million.

thanks again! I appreciate the quick assistance.

there are probably some localized drupal sites as well

I guess that's proof enough. Anyone know if there is a drupal job board out there?

hiring?

Hire a Drupal site developer http://drupal.org/node/51169 - or try #drupal-consultants

yes many

anyway, I'm looking for a pointer in the right direction. How do I allow users to create/view content that they create as well as people in role X even if the user is not a member of role X

read that post

looking for talented drupal dev's

http://groups.drupal.org/jobs

sweet
thanks guys.

kkaefer: the definitive post is here:
hiring?

Hire a Drupal site developer http://drupal.org/node/51169 - or try #drupal-consultants

it lists all the places

ok, good to know, never knew this factoid.

if you got back 0 rows then you have no url aliases
I imagine you are in the wrong db

but I thought for sure I had at least a dozen of them in the site I'm checking
bah.

"you need time to research the bidders"…
if you get more than one

seen dopry

dopry was last seen in #nowpublic 15 hours 19 min ago saying 'okay… its not horribly broken and mailhandler uploads still work… I'll reconvene in about 8 hours and do more thorough testing.'.

umm
Druplicon stores messages from a private channel
^^

yeah
we know that.
if someone wants he can fairly easy eavesdrop — irc is not encrypted
that's why i said read my settings.php and not copypasted the db_url

yeah

passwords are not to be mentioned on irc

drupal modules are out of control after views fusion, here comes views union

Skype are , for example, much more safer
Jimmy "druplicon" Hoffa?

private channel = private message?

hi all - anyone here have experience using drupal with mysql clusters? (NDBCLUSTER)

no

then what?

password protected channels

ah

I know lullabot has one. so has nowpublic. it's too easy and useful to have one to not have one.

how do I make content that is viewable only by its creator or members of a particular role?

mothersclick.com has one as well

I bet a lot.

support ?

Please direct support questions to the volunteers in #drupal-support or on the Drupal forums. #drupal is a place to discuss and help with code, advocacy, documentation, infrastructure, and pretty much everything else.

#mcdev

I took the idea from lullabot, anyways

thanks.

anyone know of a 'good' drupal theme tutorial? I can hack and slash, but i'd like to know before I start ripping this stuff up
'good' being subjective

theme?

http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/theme

there isn't one

crap.

because everyone does it differently

Try looking for the website for Pro Drupal Development. They have chapter 8, on theme development, as a sample pdf for free.

fair enough. Is there a starting point for building your own theme?

there is the handbook, there is also a cool podcast on lullabot.com
and the pro drupal development book
start with the zen theme, rather than with garland

xaxen, http://drupal.org/node/509

we have the book on order. Not sure when Bentley will get it though

16 IRC mentions

thanks Guardian!

you're welcome

seen webchick?

webchick was last seen in #drupal 14 min 32 sec ago saying 'Awesome handle. '.

ping

Hey
sup?

you seem to be one of the very few people who have actually used the importexportapi.

Comments

Mplayer which was working earlier now says that -dev-dsp is busy I use alsa and this has not been an issue before

depends on your question

!ask

"I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If
you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org

the older one dosen't. have you installed openbox yet?
for the current obconf there was a depends added for ibobrender16 and libobparser16.

jaydg, thanks. I think I messed up my /var/lib/dpkg/status file by manually deleting some packages info in order to 'solve' some pesky dist-upgrade error. But what I get is: E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
.. Is there anything I can do to recover from it?

no updates lately guess lenny took em

try the backup in /var/backups/

hark, you talking to me?

yes

hark, there's a dpkg.status.0 from yesterday. What should I do with it?
hark, and also a bit earlier aptitude.pkgstates.0.

you can also look at /var/lib/dpkg/status-old
if these don't work, i think there is a dselect method to recreate it using /usr/share/doc info

hi everyone, how can i reset an ldap password (slapd) for the admin?
dpkg-reconfigure slapd

maybe anyone can help me. I'm trying to compile sancp. But it don't found pcap files, I had compiled it from source and wrote down the correct path in the Makefile
any tip of how can I make sancp find pcap files?

hark, I think you got right on the spot with the status-old file. It's from today! But just to have more info, how would I proceed with the /var/backups file?
hark, s/file/files/

stoned

yes
thats me

!maemo

Maemo is a development platform to create applications for the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet and other maemo compliant handheld devices. http://maemo.org/

is there a package to make debian your router

iptables
learn about them
!nat

[nat] configured easily with a GUI using the package guidedogipmasq or guarddog

hmm
!iptables

[iptables] the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about netfilter docs, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has
some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450

happy reading

i see and put second nick in to share conection

bit more complicated then that

hey ronin stupid router seems to got own mind

i've patched a kernel-source with kernel-patch-badram and provided a badram option when booting my kernel of badram=0×029217cc,0xfffffffc but i still get "0k badram" when grepping dmesg output for ^Memory

How ironic - apt-listbugs itself is broken, so cannot list bugs, including its own!

bootstrap problem ;-)

figured it out

hark, you there?

I had a similar problem with reportbug :P
in fact, I ended up using reportbug to report a bug on itself

hmm, it seems that this apt-listbugs bug has only appeared today too, the first day I discover it. Typical!

heh

it's a change in debbug's soap interface
http://blog.venthur.de/2007/08/10/rng-and-others-temporary-broken/

hey how do i see my ipod, on which device it is, so i can mounted it before it was /dev/sdb2 but now its not working

run dmesg after you plug it in

dmesg | tail

: [sdb] 156301488 512-byte hardware sectors (80026
but i try to mount it but it doesn't work
: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through sdb:
Aaron@darkPLANET:~$ mount: special device /dev/sdb2 does not exist
special device /dev/sdb2 does not exist

any good docs on an example openldap configuration? i have my ldif stuff done — just want to make sure that the schema is right and that i can just put the data up

any ideas?

did you try sdb1?

yeah i did

and what happened?

see anything of interest in fdisk -l?

fdisk -l /dev/sdb

somehow i can not authenticate :-(

the sdb1 is my external hard drive

oh
try fdisk -l

I have a weird situation. I have a RAID where mdadm reports a disk as /dev/.static/dev/sdb1, but dd if=/dev/.static/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/null reports: dd: opening `/dev/.static/dev/sdb1': No such device or address. I am trying to get the drive light to flicker, since it's one of the disks in a
RAID1 and the other one has failed.

ldapadd -f addressbook.ldif -x -D "cn=admin,dc=labs,dc=mycompany,dc=com" -W

jaydg:
/dev/sdb1 1 9729 78148161 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)

and i always have the wrong credentials (even though i used slappasswd to create a new one)

how do I restart iptables without rebooting in etch?

fair enough. I'm sure the affected packages will be fixed shortly

you don't "restart" iptables, it's a kernel service

but that's my external hard drive though.

ok.how do I undo settings?

check the manpage

seemd like it is called sdb1 now

flushes a given table

special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist

did you try lsusb?

if I set wrong settings for iptables I loose my internet connection iptables -F doesnt help to restore it . do I have to reboot in this case?

unplug the ipod, type dmesg, plug it back in, type dmesg again… what new stuff is mentioned?

ID 0000:0000
that's only what it says jaydg while running lsusb

strange

yeah i know,

iptables -L and make sure you are accepting packets for both INPUT and OUTPUT

ID 05ac:1260 Apple Computer, Inc.
now that's what i've get

can anybody tell me how I can print the "process group id" of a process?
using ps

now dmesg should tell you wich devecie name has been assigned to the ipod

: rejecting I/O to dead
that's all i get

did you read the manpage?

http://rafb.net/p/cnGqbz93.html

Did not read it in full detail.

how do i completely remove gnome? I just installed xfce

#debian is not a manpage

use package manajour?

!tell x3on about remove gnome

my roommate told me that ipods tend to break after the warranty is ovew

what doesn't?

My ipod (incidently I have broken it now) always appears on sd?2

how come debian installs python2.4 as well when i install python2.5?

refrigerators

food in there moldy

things that depends on just python currently use 2.4

i never got a chance to break my ipod… it was stolen

stew is what rottie eating

along with my nikon coolpix 5600 and a 1gb flash card

mmm, not sure about 2948w, but I've only had luck with booting from a 2940u2w which loads it's bios at boot time (when it detects a drive connected to it)

has anybody ever succeeded booting etch from a sata (fake) raid?

fake raid?

software raid provided by the sata bios

stray_, i´ve installed it to the SCSI HDD, but i get an grub error each time i try to boot

not sure how, but the aha has to be supported by the initrd to see the board/drive.

jaydg, would depend on support of your controller - if unsure, use soft-raid

GRUB seems to be giving me problems - if I add an additional disk, it just repeats "GRUB GRUB Loading stage1.5." when I try to boot (from the one I always had). This does not make any sense. Why would it be doing that?

stray_, ok thanx for lookin
stray_, yes!! i got it goin!!

yaaay!

i had C8000-CBFFF Shadow enabled , i switched off an there we go ;D

soft-raid on a production system looks evil to me, is it really reliable?

how do I do a find and replace with vim?

excuse me? A chipset-RAID on a procustion system?
THAT'S evil

I'd rather use soft raid than hard raid

semi raid?

raid blows away incl all data

mdadm raid is fine

When I add an additional disk (without disturbing my original one in any way), when I try to boot, the message "GRUB GRUB Loading stage1.5." repeats ad infinitum - why would that happen and what do I do about it?

raid just moves the single point of failure to the raid card
all my hardware raid based servers have failed due to raid

you had raid contollers failures?

":%s/find/replace/g" check out ":help"

ta

nothing is perfect. i think it's the best to buy an expensive raid card one can find on ebay after years..

and when your raid fails how do you recover the data?

restore from backups

Would trying the second disk on a different channel help?

which backups?

hah!

http://www.semicomplete.com/presentations/vim/#slide_0

from my experience backups alway are fine except when you relly need them..

schedule test restores.

how do you test if your backups work?

… that's an advice I should take myself, really
restore to some other machine, or at least verify the media

Well, in the absence of an answer I am going to try it

I suppose today I'd restore to a VM

tape backups are slow, tapes can break
backups on different servers fail with the net or the other server
cds/dvds are too unreliable

are you trying to solve the problem, or just complaining/

i'm sharing my experiences

my tape drives can push 60MB/s

I'm going to backup to 4 external harddrives, 1 local, 3 remote

and the media is ok if it lives thru the first write.
I get 1-2 bad tapes from a batch of 30. LTO2.

last tapes i've used were dlt and dat and both were unsatisfying

I just did a fresh install of stable & upgraded to unstable. I setup alsa, started the alsa init script. I'm missing the /dev/sound folder and any device nodes in it. Is there a way to create them? Otherwise, I need to wait for a new kernel to build (probably an hour long thing, I'd like
music while it builds)

hi there
just a question
Id like to install an antivirus in my etch box

is there anyway to use a kernel off a cd or floppy and use the root on my HDD?

but how much do you have to pay for a tape backup system that doesn't suck?

which do you recommend?

clamav

:jaydg

it helps if you have a clean server room. a dat drive used in a smoking environment was completely unusable, but the same model worked decently in another location

another reason smokers should all be shot

nice way of thinking

can't shoot the students, apparently it's not legal

just wait until my new world order

after smokers, let's shot all those people with bear and long hairs

eh?

BSD users?

then…maybe the black ? or why not the chinese people…

bear?

at least, let's kill all those gay people
s/bear/beard

no, just people who choose to do things

finaly, jew ?

!tell pingouin_ about gay

I am very gay
today is half day

well yes, and the jews, obviously

i get to go home early

and the wasps.

yabba dabba gay ol' time

and three clowns.

wasps are useful

wasps as in WASPs

yeah, not the others

we're discussing backup reliability

one problem i had with dat tapes was that they are so tiny and breakable. press eject on the drive, loose patience after a while, come back whe the drive has ejected the tape and it crashed on the floor

heh, funny. my client says I'm in #debian, must be some kind of glitch
ahh… now it make perfect sense :P

dude, take care!

hi

also, rewind in advance.

I have an intel i810 integrated graphics chipset and an ATi radeon PCI video card. I want to use the ATi card
how would I go about figuring out the PCI ID or whatever it is I need to get it working with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?

disable the intergradet one

I can't disable it. I can set the default card to the PCI one
when I reconfigured my xorg.conf and put the ati driver as the driver to use, it failed

what does lspci |grep VGA say?

2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev
9.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (rev
9.0 be the

that is the pci location

is the correct syntax for xorg.conf I

by the way, there was no offence in the word i use. I know others more offensive

ok, one second let me try it

I wote for Lorez to grow up and not be making freenode go down on his own

I don't care but I think facist talk is offensive and not remotely funny

so read back

Damn the kidz these days, all full of hope and attitude :P

you miss stuffs i guess

there was nothing fascist in the remarks above.

stop trolling.

wtf was that all about?

that's what i'm talking about - tapes take too much time for everything and nned too much care.

Now, how can i get you to really use your brain. "You fucking crazy moron" .. there, maybe now your cells can be jumpstarted in order for you to join the real situations

/ pingouin_ - gorget it
forget it

he got removed from #freenode for his language and is now trolling me.
he got removed from #freenode for his language and is now trolling me.

forgive but not forget

thanks

hello; I'm running debian testing with linux kernel 2.6.21-2-amd64. Why I don't have *hiddev* in /dev ? I only have it in /dev/.static/…

and if you want to do a full restore from a tape, takes ages, esp when you have to index them all first because the index was on the harddrive that died

Dont worry, i dont dislike you at all.. we just code dude
Slimy twofaced liar

please keep to the topic

k

well, we couldn't live without them here as $ISP, we have TB of data to store somewhere daily

can libapache2-mod-python use python2.5? it seems to only install using python2.4 even with 2.4/2.5 installed and 2.5 set as the default

anyone know how to find out what kind of wireless card i have in my machine?

So, i think ill arrange a gathering at akamai later tonight takeout, laters with the LoRezMoboFooDronez

lspci?

and tapes archive much better than cheap ATA drives. I wonder if an ATA drive would spin up after sitting somewhere for 2 or 5 years

we at $ISP do it the hard way - in our term customers are responsible for their data

archive, yes, backup, no

Hello, I'm having something weird with apt-get and aptitude… apt-get upgrade says there is nothing to upgrade, but aptitude upgrade says it will remove 255 unused packages for a total of 365 MB … what is going on ? This is Debian 4.0

ah, but then you can't make them pay for you to restore their mysql/php sites! :-)

backups are really hard with ever-chaning data like mail spools

Don't mix apt-get and aptitude - use one or the othere

yes we can

Maildir ftw

you can use aptitude unmarkauto package
(so it doesn't remove what you want to keep)

for 225 packages ?

well no - just for the ones you actually want
chances are alot of them are dependancies - they can stay on auto

jelly, i use ahsay to backup abount 400 secure linux web hosting machines on a scsi chasis. pretty solid and secure. simple java client installation and nice web interface. you might give it a try.

which software?

cron+tar ftw

ahsay

I say!

jelly, www.ahsay.com

how can i install nvidia drivers on debian
the envy program works?

hi all

!nvidia

for a reminder.

can anyone remind me how to have the grub/menu.lst please ?
!grub

rumour has it, grub is the Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent
step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed internet crawler.. NOT recommendend with XFS, or ask me about grub dvorak.

we're planning to use a SATA box with some decent capacity to keep at least a month of data online

some one here know something about squid and snmp?

THX!

can you give me a hand?

you want a handjob kenji ?
this isn't really the place to ask for that - this isn't a brothel or something

jajaja teclo if you want yes xD
teclo I need help with squid and snmp

we're still with sendmail and mbox..

info http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm

teclo thats why Im asking for a hand, Im asking for some help

I won't say which MTA we use, but Maildir is really good for incremental level backups.
*cough*djb wrote it*cough*

jelly, check out backuppc. it's free, very easy to use (rsync over ssh) has a great interface.

i relly do belive you unfortunately i'm not the one to decide..

the system needs to be able to handle 200-500M files.

enouf, i was talking about a command line that was recreating the grub/menu.lst from scratch automagically with available kernels

jelly, easy
jelly, it's even in the debian repos

update-grub

can someone please ssh to computerworks.selfip.com and see if it works

wow, I have to see their index database solution

!update-grub

from memory, update-grub is a magical Debian system for maintaining the grub menu automatically whenever kernel images are installed and removed (assuming they are built using make-kpkg as they should be).

enouf, thanks, trying

it looks like it does

jelly, backuppc can be configured to run rsync over ssh. it's all open source perl code and is really easy to configure. for instance if you want to run a mysqldump of postgresql-whatever before makeing the backup it's just a small command line away. very flexible

thanks

hi
how can i check if my processor supports SSE2 or SSE3 i

andyp_, cat /proc/cpuinfo

look at the flags line in there

also might want to man kernel-img.conf, and have a look in at docs, especially zless /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz

thanks

enouf, ok, perfect

ssh is too much overhead, but it probably can do something easier :-)

its got sse and sse2 if i want to enable sse3 then do I need a patch or?

if it's not there, that's it.
buy a CPU that supports it

its ok sse2 is there

it detects what the cpu has

hello to everyone

that simple

Is it an amd ?

you really want 700+ replies?

soory for my ignorance what does sse stand for?

simonrvn, of course yes ;D

if it is then sse3 is emulated using sse2 so its purposly ommited
i.e its faster to use sse2

I'm ousing testing, yesterday night I apt-get update &dist-upgraded my debian, and the "debian menu" in the gnome-panel applications is gone… what can I do? somebody's knows?

its an intel

what chip ?

also, why does it matter to you?

yes, it's intentional, and you can re-enable it

jelly, ssh will probably not cause much overload. the main issue with backups is usually i/o. even a very basic machine will be able to handle ssh/rsync very well. to improve safety ssh is obvisouly the way to go. just make sure the backup server host is
as save as it can be….

simonrvn, oh lord, somebody who knows! aawhere can I read about it? (or if you're so kind to explian…)

the gnome menu editor

pushing 20-30MB thru ssh uses nontrivial cpu time :-|

Why not just use a private backup network (that is what I have always done) no encryption needed

it has checkboxes, you click the ones you want

that what we have too, but hush!

simonrvn, I check it right now…

well since you ask i am thinking of useing OSX just to take a look i have arch X86

'using'

taking a look thats all

I thought OSX is supported on dedicated hardware only (and was not Debian)?

i know.. i was correcting your spelling of 'using'

h3sp4wn, i agree but if you do not have a situation like that it would probably be wise to use encryption
h3sp4wn, i agree but if you do not have a situation like that it would probably be wise to use encryption
jelly, 20-30mb is easy

yes thats correct but with vmware it can work

simonrvn, er.. where can I find the gnome menu editor?

but nothing to do with debian whatsoever

SigI'm lost. How is one supposed to get peripheral X to work with Debian Etch?

!find bin/vmware

Sigh. I'm lost. How is one supposed to get peripheral X to work with Debian Etch?

ok point taken but i did learn how to check my cpu info

that depends what "X" is.

h3sp4wn, what backup software do you use?

X in my case is currently the scanner and sound, both of which worked under Sarge, but broke on upgrade.
used to be I'd google, say, "Debian sound howto", and that'd get me started.

my debian server at work is backed up to tape using NetVault on win2k3 c.c

but I'm not having much luck with that in Etch, for whatever reason.

!sound

and arts. For sarge go to http://wiki.debian.org/UseSoundCard

that reminds me, i should see if my scanner'll work in etch… only used it in windows c.c

it might not be installed, just search for it and install it if it's not there. called something like gnome-menu-editor or something

what is the commamd to remove an installed dpkg package i used dpkg to install it i tried -r and -P i wonder if –purge might work

simonrvn, ok, let's see

alsachecklist
!alsachecklist

-r?
!alsa checklist

/dev/dsp` work for root?

sorry r and P?

-r = remove, -P = purge
purge removes config files

ok thanks I tried both of them they did not work

!doesn't work

Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic
questions like "what's the error message".

dpkg; well your not from the us that for sure, i like the it

dpkg is a bot…
and I believe is from the US.

does anyone know of a tool to keep a lot of debian machines up-to-date or to check their current patch-level?

what is easy torent

a program

almost an english smear, anything is possible

i need a bit torrent that does not need firewall port opened

any ideas re trying –purge

what's the exact problem?

i could probably hack some nice perl script to run ssh certain commands on all machines but i was wondering if someone has already done this.

how do I find my network connection information form the command line? I tried ifconfig but it just says command not found.

you don't NEED to open ports, but it's nice to do it because it allows peopel to download form you

look for ''distributed shell''.

i use bittornado

/sbin/ifconfig

good luck finding anythign fast without opening ports

Blackgoth, thanks. seems a lot like cluster ssh

how do u open ports

not sure what you are using to close them as a "firewall" google it

tried google read there guard dog

what i did was aptitude -i bittorrent_5_0_8_python2.4.deb tried -r and -P but will not remove
dpkg

uhm Blissex, thanks

thanks

what? did you dpkg or aptitude?

guys Im trying this root@www:~# squidclient mgr:info but is not working

+use

can you help me?

sorry dpkg

dpkg is a bot…

what's the error message?
wrong dpkg.

hehe ok

simonrvn, I have found the gmenu-simple-editor, and it appears to be a menu editor… but it cannot help me… It is not that the entries from the "debian menu" are lost, noeepe, is the whole "debian menu" which i slost (there no "debian menu") yuo have said that it is a feature… are you
sure? where can i read more about this? or what can i do? ( I cannot check anything to make the debina moenu… and I have yet run update-menus from a

terminal as root…)

run it as your user too

guys Im trying this root@www:~# squidclient mgr:info but is not working, can you help me? http://rafb.net/p/i3s7fS71.html

Hi

simonrvn, done too, that's what I id last night, and I log out from my session.. .I have even rebooted my computer ;D

Anybody here who can help with kde?

!anyone

polls

"dpkg: you must specify packages by there own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in. " this message was for both the -r and -P commands

the quesion is where the heck the kde wallet manager is in Etch. In the previous version it was in the tray, but now I cannot find it anymore

I have no idea, I don't use kde

so, *anone* else? ;-)

it means you need to specify the name of the package which is not the filename of the .deb

It's just not the greatest thing on earth to give the passwd mgr a word and then render unable to withdraw it…

a clue

how can I do a loop with for in bash?

dpkg -I file.deb then look for "Package:" to get the name.
for i in 1 2 3; do echo $i; done

simonrvn, I have seen that this is checked as a bug… do you use testing? or stable?

neither

simonrvn, sid?

thankyou

How do I see the real size of a folder?
I'm sure it's bigger then 4096b

Deepa, du -h
Deepa, d(isk) u(sage)

42GB
yup, half of my previous HDD in a a folder :/

Deepa, amule? xD

amule?

!folder

folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood… or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes.

directory*

Do I need something special in order to get .wav files working?

a media player?

speakers and a sound card

I'm running something in Wine and they aren't working, so I figured I'd ask here and there.
So it's not Debian, didn't think it would be. Thanks

i have a doamin name and when i installed etch I gave that domin name which is now parked else whereat the time i had a ststic ip address now its allocated by dhcp and stays for about two weeks or so i suppose there is no point in pointing my domain to a dhcp IP address

use dyndns or something?

dynamic dns/ you can do it at home, or with a 3rd party

thanks
ok thanks
if i have file that has a .zip extension is the package i need called unzip?

if for .rar it's unrar, for .zip it's unzip

i have ~6k mp3s. what are the pros and cons to having all those files in a single folder, vs having recursive folders? from a linux/file system standpoint?

.3.5-13)" … debian branding on gentoo is NOT possible, and theyre having a joke,

who knows? they could have shoved in a debian version of gcc onto their gentoo system.

howdy

gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)

ktorent self opens ports

gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)

sweet
im going home

hah

i got an onsite job tomoorow
boss is jewish he can't do business of any kind on saturday

I'm leaving home how about that

he said, go do this job, keep all the money
my boss is the shiz

that's hella

and how people say stupid shit about jews, i will never understand
first jewish guy i EVER dealt with in my life, my boss, and great guyy
first jewish guy i EVER dealt with in my life, my boss, and great guyy
just great

they say stupid shit because they base their knowledge off stereotypes

tokyoeye, dondelelcaro thanks

home time
bye

np

stoned u nice fella

whatcha have to do tomorrow?

i use wpa_supplicant in roaming config, and the iface set to allow-hotplug. if i do ifdown on the wireless interface, it comes back up by itself after a while — how can i prevent that?

no stew today
peacfull today no work here today

i have ~6k mp3s. what are the pros and cons to having all those files in a single folder, vs having recursive folders? from a linux/file system standpoint?

if you put them all in one folder you have absoltuely no organization, and that's lame. other than that, loading data/displaying ~6k files at once in a browser or file browser is a total bitch
i suggest using organized folders
a nick structure is Artist/Album/Track## - Title.ext

c`alin: ok, thats what i was wondering, thanks

nice*

depends if you use your music player to organise them, or the filesystem
or a search system

i usually have my music player organize them
and 90% of them are tagged correctly
and they are named as"Artist - Title.mp3"

I've just rebuild the 2.6.21 kernel for my laptop but I have a kernel panic VFS unknown block on (0,0); I have used make-kpkg kernel_image –initrd
what am I doing wrong ?
the interesting part is that the official debian unstable kernel works

speed of access of the files in the filesystem, and speed of access via a UI

debian testing, sorry

does that mean that the files will be accessed quicker if they are in folders/
?

no idea, probably depends on the filesystem
and how much ram is free

hmm… need to read up on ext3 then bbl

it's only going to be millisecond differences anyway

hi i did all the wiki steps for nvidia configuration and did not works… what else can i do
the envy program works for debian?

!tell john_titor about nvidia one-liner

didn't include support for your ide hardware bus or root (/) filesystem…

I have found the problem. I forgot the initrd line in grub configuration in menu.lst

or that
hehe

youpi

Id like to create PDF files from my webbrowser, what I need to install?

ahh hold up drink for bot

samba has a pdf print driver

Hello folks
How would I find ^M in a text file in vi on debian? Would I search for ^M or \^M or something else?

samba?
How to install it ?

It seems Enter has been replaced with ^M all over the file
and no matter what I search for I can't get vi to find the massive ammount of ^M showing up in the file

loaded the file into a windows machine ?

you might need to read a bit, it's an implementation of SMB networking

Not me, but I have to fix it

But I will use it locally

:%s,(press control-v here then press enter),,g

or use dos2unix on the file

try - perl -pi.bak -e 's/\r\n$/\n/' file

B|ngo, I think this is the thing I forgot

hey.. what would be best hosting way to backup mysql db across network and/or to another disk?

Unfortunately its not on the server

!dos2unix

dos2unix is in the sysutils package; or you could use col, recode, fromdos (in the package tofrodos), flip, tr -d '\r', or even perl -pi -e 's/\r\n/\n/g'

This is debian 3.1. does debian have it somewhere in the package list?
hmm

you know, you should upgrade ASAP
sarge won't be supported for much longer

:O
Sarge is baad :

I'll notify the owner

I personally have no love to stable
too old packages

perl -pi.bak -e 's/\r\n$/\n/' file - doesn't work
How do I install dos2unix from sysutils package?

That is what I used - try one of the other ways

xprint I think solves !

!dos2unix

dos2unix is in the sysutils package; or you could use col, recode, fromdos (in the package tofrodos), flip, tr -d '\r', or even perl -pi -e 's/\r\n/\n/g'

Nope, none of them is working

!factinfo dos2unix

1 2005 by simonrvn!simon@simonrvn.user; it has been requested 68 times, last by streuner, 46s

haha
your turn ;-)

How! exactly do I install it?

how i update my java

HOW exactly do I install it?

well, how did you install java hosting at all?

dpkg install dos2unix? or apt-get dos2unix?

hm, weird
!seen abrotman

'kenji: try it'.

aptitude install tofrodos

"dos2unix is in the sysutils package"
so install sysutils

yeah i got java

thanks

hi, how can i mount uif data?

wtf is "uif" data?

its compression image file format

dos2unix is actually in tofrodos; sysutils is a dummy package these days.

?unstable

(Universal image host Format()

on sarge ?

what is worse, unstable or testing?

!tell benny_ about sid faq

ahh… you're right… I've only just joined

thanks

!assume

Don't assume, just KNOW

hmmmm

both are bad in there own (different) ways

if he have to ask, both are evil then :-)

h3sp4wn, I'll simply update to unstable now :-[

what's the command for installing all the build dependencies of a package?

apt-get build-dep

how do i change sudos name

thanks

dude, read sid faq first!

the mill u from can eh?
if i uprade il loose x and need remote to fix

I guess I want testing then

what do you want from testing/unstable ? can you get it from backports.org

unless you want either specific packages out of testing or a world of pain… don't go there.

hi

I want emacs22

im trying to patch a kernel, and i cannot configure my kernel with make menuconfig or make xconfig
whats wrong? im in /usr/src/linux

When I create PS file using the printer file function

http://pastebin.com/mdc0f940 sudo make xconfig gives me this

http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/OnDebianEtch

Then, I convert PS file to PDF

http://pastebin.com/mdc0f940 make menuconfig that

thanks

The quality is not so good
how solve it ?

completely untested by me, but it might work for you

Does vi on debian 3.1 not support :set nowrap?

actually, it looks like a fairly straight forward backport

ok

ps2pdf works here very well

!tell benny_ about simple sid backport

i am installing linux-headers-2.6.18-4-686 and aptitude wants to install - linux-headers-2.6.18-4, linux-headers-2.6.18-4-686, and linux-kbuild-2.6.18?

sounds about right
the kbuild package is associated cruft for being able to build modules, and the non-686 package will be a metapackage

so ?

well when i install vmware it needs linux-headers package but which one

Its not so simple - you need to make it provide emacs-snapshot (to satisfy depends on such as - quack-el or other external stuff)

probably for the kernel you are running atm

loxley which is 2.6.18-4-686

either aptitude install libncurses-dev or aptitude install libqt3-mt-dev

h3sp4wn, ok

so if i want remove two of those packages as i do not need then whats the c line

what about fetching them manually ?

just look in the debian/ directory - find where it says provides emacs22 - and add emacs-snapshot to that line (then most stuff will still work without having too copies of emacs installed)

h3sp4wn, hope it will work

I think so, but it's been a very long time since I've tried…

even in unstable there is most of those dependancies that are not updated

i c
whatever… I'll keep emacs21 then
one day it will hopefully be stable

Its stable now its just there is loads of stuff that plug into emacs
depending on how much of it you need etc etc

ah

and it may or not be easy to get it to work

I'll stick to emacs21 then
didn't think that it is that complicated
h3sp4wn, thanks then
h3sp4wn, didn't think that it is that complicated — just thought I was doing something wrong

everytime i reboot linux, my xserver has problems loading. to fix it, i re-run the NVIDIA*.sh and copy over my saved xorg.conf file. is there anyway to fix this?

wierd
do you only reboot when upgrading kernels?
or is this for _any_ reboot drwahl

no, i reboot to do somethings in windows, so that would make it ANY reboot

hi i follow the wiki hosting steps for nvidia installation and does not work….. also install envy and does not work either what can i do

DCC SEND (characterlimitover14)

wow, you'd think linux people would be able to fix a buffer overflow in 24 months

mavhk, buffer overflow?

mavhk in which software

i also need to encrypt some files using pgp, is gpg the same thing? if not, any suggestion on packages to do pgp?

the dcc thing is a buffer overflow in some router firmware

drwahl yes

mavhk, and how would linux fix that/

when i used envy for nvidia installation send me an error "… cannot be instaled: nvidia-kernel-common"

mavhk that's NOT A LINUX PROBLEM AT ALL
mavhk it's a problem in vxworks, if it matters to you, and has never affected linux hosting routers

Kevin`: "yes" meaning that gpg is the same as pgp?

and is only for consumer routers
yes, drwahl

thank you

my point was people who use linux would be able to upgrade firmware

/umode +C

mavhk heh, i'd hope people using linux wouldn't be running vxworks on a router at all

before start to install nvidia with envy shows me the following The following packages are not installed:
linux-headers-`uname -r`
how can i install the "linux-headers-'uname-r' ?????

apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`

be careful about what quotes they are

hi, im looking for something similar to looking at the current passwd and shadow file of a system for a user and if he exists to migrate those settings to one or more systems anyone know a script or program that does something similar that i can modify?

Could you please tell does "lenny" in testing release or in unstable?

!tell mancubus1 about lenny

i did the apt-get install kernels….. and tells me that cannot found the kernel package
is that a source.list problem?

yes

please pastebin your sources.list and the output from that command

unless you're typing it wrong

themill, thnx

ok thx
sorry the noob question but…… what can i do to find the kernel-header packages
dunno what to do

why do you need them at all?

packages.debian.org

hi

apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`

get your current kernel name and version with "uname -r" and install the corresponding kernel-headers-xxx package

get both boxes with the same kernel version installed through apt, then scp the initrdimage to from the good box to the bad one. Bingo! Thanks to everyone who provided insight throughout the day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/855530042/

i've been compiling linux-kernel (2.6.21) on debian/lenny, after sudo time make-kpkg –append-to-version=mojkernel kernel_image modules_image –initrd

i need them because i cant install the nvidia drivers

5.91elapsed 96%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0inputs+0outputs (28major+51796715minor)pagefaults 0swaps

apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`

that solution doesn't make sense. shouldn't the images be the same?

whats the mining of this 0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident ??
*meaning

ok now did work thx

apparently something went wrong with the making of the initrd image during the upgrade of the second box. Either that or the initrd got corrupted. Anyhow, it worked.

but now for the nvidia drivers…. can i use the envy program
it works for debian?

!find envy

(/usr/share/app-install/desktop/envy24_control.desktop) in x11/app-install-data ;; (/usr/bin/envy24control, /usr/share/applications/envy24_control.desktop) in sound/alsa-tools-gui.

!tell john_titor about nvidia

was just curious if the generated initrd was machine specific

john_ whats the "envy" program at all? what does it make?

install nvidia latest drivers

it's some ubuntu nvidia installer thingy

omg

yes i think it is
but i heard it works on debian as well

Hi FreeRAM script or something to clean ram ?

I think they are, but even so, the two boxes in question are hardware identical down to the smallest ram chip.

just follow the instructions that dpkg sent you

dont use that crap

allright… im on it

Just read some entries from the log as well. mkinitramsfs-kpkg failed to create initrd image. Any idea why?

well congratulations then finding that error. must have been a frustrating day.

hello ricka

maybe it makes a clean install of the drivers. but i've never heard of it before myself

Very, been on it since 8 AM eastern without a break. There really needs to be more practical kernel docs than what I read.

hi

Great docs about compilation, how the kernel works, etc. Just try finding docs on troubleshooting by topic. I still haven't found any.

hehe … well it if you had the old initrd, maybe a diff would be interesting

i'm supposed to write an essay for a class that "Compares Windows, MacOSX, Linux, and Unix". I'm trying not to a) sound too much like a Linux fanboy, and b) not make my teacher sound too dumb ("Unix vs. Linux", which is probably not true in the way she means it)

if i have created a link to a file or directory with the ln -s command how do i remove that ln

rm

Where can i get FreeRAM script or something to clean ram ? Tnx

what's a good FTP client for Debian?

lftp

k, thanks

i think i use wget, vim, or firefox

Vim

Hi just installed Lenny and have decided to stick with epiphany. Can I use the adobe flash player 9 with epiphany. I just tried to install it but it keeps asking me for a valid installation path when I direct it to /usr/lib/epiphany?

I usually use ncftp (or Firefox) when I'm forced to use FTP.

!flood

It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/

filezilla

Your RAM is either being used for cacheing purposes or is occupied. Such a script doesn't make sense. The kernels memory management is fine.

erm… ok it needs SFTP haha… what's a good SFTP client? [my bad]

linux-source-2.6.18

filezilla also does sftp

sshfs? :-)

erm?
alright

sshfs is a sftp client.

konqi does sftp (but not really ftp)
i've not looked at filezilla much under linux but when I'm stuck on other legacy operating systems i've used it a lot

yes, definitely. ln -s /something/that/exists /new/location; rm /new/location
all you're doing is removing the symbolic link.

i just need something to edit 1 file real quick, it's an old site that i'm adding a link to my newer one

good day/night. Tell me please, what happen with weekly updates of debian testing's dvd-images? Last updates mas made 28 may!

what if the source file in this case linux-source-2.6.18 was removed beforehand

how long does your speech need to be?

don't matta.
hehe, 200-300 words.
which is like… how many words i've typed into this channel in the last 5 minutes.
That's why i'm thinking of doing a table as the main thing.

you can't just ssh onto the box? Konqueror if you use that already is good for it's edit-in-place ability

oh yea, thanks haha it does have ssh .

rking i am getting no such file or directory even with " around as there is a space between the -

vim is your friend then

yup =]

how do itest my java

java -version ?

thats not many words for doing a real comparison

ok, so you have a symbolic link 'linux', right? it's like a light blue when you do ls –color , right? ok, just do: rm linux

yup it old il get versiopn

you don't need that symlink anyway

what do you want to test ?

1.5.0_10 that my version java
see if its working

the kernel people even recommend not making it anymore, causes too many problems

make a programm, compile it, run it

what u mean

yeah. i'm thinking about taking the stance that basically, for everybody, there are discussion-enders. like they only want a free OS because of the ideals, or they only want windows because they're tardbrains. then, i'll probably toss in a table comparing some things like internal architecture,
history, cost, application availability, distribution base, etc.

he's a newbie, don't tell him to build stuff now

thanks

try javac -version, if it is ok, than you have both: compiler and interpreter
i see tht you have java, so, you can run java programs

oh, actually - you mentioned that the link target was already removed, so `ls –color` would actually show it as red or something indicating it's b0rks.

well the history of linux is always an interesting story. and application availability is an interesting topic as well. talk a little about osx and the bsd's (maybe one commercial unix) and that should be it

yup but on the sun java i dont get nothing

anybody know what's happen with weekly updates of testing's disk-images?

however you won't be able to do that in 300 words

what do you expect to get ?
java program is interpreter which runs java programs

there are also daily builds if you'd rather

it should bring me pic of someting

they're up to date

it should not
get some java app (example: netbeans.org - java/c++ ide) and run it

XP, and not say too much more

just the major architectural landmarks and ancestors

or you have app and could not run it ?

yeah il find someting

why do you need java ?

daily builds? where i can get it?

!tell YuriX about lenny netinstall
also, read the notice at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ (first paragraph)

net beans works

than it is ok

my java must be to old for sun sight how do i update my java

thank you

why do you think it is too old ?
it is pretty new

np

there is update 1.5.0_12

cause on sun java i get no pic in there test

if you just have the jre and not the plugin, age doesn't matter, it just won't run in a browser.

hm, what test ?

can you pastebin java -version

can some go to sun java and tell me what u get

ah, browser

hello pleace channel debian in spanish help

yeah mill how i get it?

!es

Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help.

Go to about:plugins in your browser and check if you have a java plugin.

ok

do what cafuego says first

i dont see plug in in my browser it says must insatll from bin version 6

Yes, do as I say.
ok, without a plugin java on a webpage won't work, no matter what version.

:

oh il have quick java in my browser

to install the borwser plugin, aptitude install sub-java5-plugin

sun :x

and my browser says java is disabled

where does it say that?

or you can copy plugin from jre/plugin/arch/ to mozilla/irefox plugins directory
it is disabled `coz it is unavailable ?

I'm having trouble with Flash on websites like Youtube in Konqueror. The interface buttons don't respond to clicks and the file keeps skipping every 5 seconds or so (Almost like it needs to buffer more). Suggestions? Performance is fine on my other boxes.

I get an I/O error every time I try to burn a dvd. I've heard that I need to turn off IDE-SCSI emulation, but can't figure out how. Is it just a module that needs to be removed

i get error could not find that package

what browser are you using?

iceweasel

hola

and can you find java mentioned on the page about:plugins

necesito ayuda con mi distribucion de debian

on waht page?

about:plugins

!tell B4S7ONOS7 about es

what page do i look for and were

type that into the locator bar

alright i got a problem here

in iceweasel, go to the location bar and type in about:plugins

ikm trying to get multi core support
i discovered that its only using 1 proc with the default debian kernel 486 or something
so i tried using debians 2.6.18-4-k7-smp

yeah i see that

when the os boots i loads a bunch of shit and it seems like it gets stuck when its about to mount the hd's

and does it show headings for java?

nas, how do you know this? all the kernels have been smp for awhile.

perhaps copy this page into a pastebin for us

krazykit, oh rly
well

where did you get that image from?

i dont know

hold on

are you running etch?

i load system m onitor and it doesnt show stats for second cpu

get me page for paste

cat /proc/cpuinfo doesnt seem to report anything about a second cpu and neither does gkrellm

where did you get that image from?

themill, ya etch netboot cd
2.6.18-4-486

if it doesn't, then you either don't have an smp kernel, you've booted with nosmp, or you don't have a second CPU.

thats the one that came with it

plug in page down

ok… that's not 2.6.18-4-k7-smp though….
where did you get that one from?

themill, ya i know i had to go back to the default to make it work again
when i tried to load the smp k7 one it got stuck
iu have athlon x2 5200

themill what apge?

is k7 the wrong kernel perhaps

I don't think there's an smp k7 image in etch so that's why I'm trying to work out what you've done
about:plugins
please paste about:plugins into a pastebin for is

themill, what does transitional package mean
themill, ill tell you what i apted

ahhh that might explain it… all kernels since 2.6.mumble have been smp.

kernel-image-2.6-k7-smp - Linux 2.6 image on AMD K7 SMP - transition package

the mill il paste ass soon as i get paste from bot

you don't need to specify an smp kernel any more.

ok themill im now using the default kernel
uname -r results are
2.6.18-4-486
thats the one that came by default

ok… perhaps you could pastebin cat /proc/cpuinfo for us.

that one doesn't do SMP

ok i will pastebin
http://pastebin.com/d3eed6e72

ok.. that's a 64 bit processor….

zinx, so which one has smp support that i should be using
themill should i be using the 64bit kernel though?
will i still be able to use 32 bit stuff?

do amd64 processors support k7 kernels?

should

I'm not sure…. I can get you this far and I think we now know the right questions to ask, but I've never touched amd64 stuff.

what do u want pased the mill

please paste about:plugins into a pastebin for us

themill, thank you
i appreciate any ideas
themill ive never touched 64bit stuff either lol
just got this new comp

http://pastebin.ca/index.php the mill

i don't get how /etc/network/if-*.d/ stuff is supposed to work… placed a simple script there echoing into a file, nothing happens

its there

paste and press submit

…. some number should follow that….

http://pastebin.ca/652989

that's not about:plugins

the mill iam under java looks like i need to install version 6 bin
which i have on my desk top

is there any way to find out the status on a package?

i dont see plugs ins

irssi .8.11 is out and I'm just curioius as to if there is a possible timeframe on when it will be availible through apt

to install the borwser plugin, go to a terminal and type aptitude install sub-java5-plugin

i get error

please paste the command and error into a pastebin

type in address bar in your browser — about:plugins and paste contents of opened page to pastebin

When I try to print, theres no option to print more pages per sheet
how to do it ?

psnup

my thought was maybe that kernel doesnt support my boards chipset or something

psnup?

psnup converts postscript to n-up format. or if you are using kde, then it's in the settings tab on the print dialogue.

its telling me plug in isnt a directory

run-parts doesn't show my script as being run at ifup/down -v — any idea why?

amd64 is supposed to work. Perhaps try a live cd.

about:plugins

themill, so think i sho9uld try the amd64 kernel than? is that what your saying?

be really careful about spaces etc when you type that.

how to install psnup?

what board & chipset do you have?

umm
asus m2a-vm

psutils

i was carefull

nas; no idea, but what I'm reading says that amd64 kernel should match your processor.

amd 690g chipset

`lspci' will give you an indication if you're in Linux now

you can put lspci -n into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi
it's past my bed time… good luck with it. And "aptitude install sun-java5-plugin" will probably solve all your problems.
night all!

haha cool
night

!g'night

Sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite

could find package for that comand
no such pakage
night

in the browser locator bar, type "about:plugins". It can't be any clearer than that.

check you still have non-free in your sources.list

ok
linux dont have that olug in in browser
i ahve non free source list
ok so wahts next

about:plugins
in web-browser's address bar
and paste contents to pastebin

yup i am there now

copy & paste

yup can i pm you

can

yup do u under stand that
whats a symbolic link
yup

does anyone here use linuxtrade?

well, that looks like it worked. Have to re-attach the SATA drive and reboot to make sure. Grab the initrd file ; un-gzip the file ; uncpio the file ; change ONE STINKING LINE in ONE STINKING FILE ; re-cpio the directory ; re-gzip the cpio ; cp the new initrd into /boot. WHEW!

!linuxtrade

Mplayer, which was working earlier, now says that /dev/dsp is busy. I use alsa and this has not been an issue before, I'm not running any abnormal applications. How can I find out what has locked the device? Firefox crashed a couple of minutes ago and I had flashplayer open, could this be
it?

I can't get sound on any applications in fact

kilimanjaro, it may be. try lsof /dev/dsp to see what's using it

freebsd had a program called fstat that would show active files, is there something analagous on debian?
ok
nothing

fstat too

kilimanjaro, you may need to do it with root permissions

krazykit, yea I did, there were no results
maybe I'll try restarting
I bet it was stupid firefox

kilimanjaro, you may be able to restart alsa

got it

damn nvidia drivers!!!

evince and xmms were using stuff in /dev/snd/, for some magical reason when I killed both of them /dev/dsp was unlocked

yup

how many of the install cd's are mandatory? do i have to install all 20?

one

I'm downloading from the net
is there a page that tells whats on each cd
thnx

TylerJGillies, the netinstall, if you only want the packages you want

and if you have a faster internet connection
*fast

I have a WLAN card will that work?

TylerJGillies, ah, no, probably not then. ideally, you'd plug in for the install

What is the default for CONFIG_HZ in the kernel for Debian 4.0?

TylerJGillies, unless it's like a prism card or something that's supported in-kernel without the need for external firmware

not necessary a debian question, I'm running kubuntu, but not getting much help in the channels. I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.20-16-generic, and after so, my secondary Master/Slave disappeared and I can't mount them or even list them with fstab! anyone have any idea why?

ralink/rt61/linksys wmp54g

no idea

supported?

TylerJGillies, pretty sure that needs an external kernel.
so nope
SperMite, this is not the place for ubuntu questions, even if they're not answering.

k thnx

SperMite, I hear it's a brutal channel, but have you asked in #ubuntu?

ubuntu is debian with flowers painted on it

heh

ccfreak2k yes, no one seemed to have any solution either

hippies!

SperMite, have you checked dmesg for any incriminating evidence?

SperMite, ubuntu heavily patches their kernel. #debian cannot guarantee that any advice will not horribly hose your system.

try easyLinuxguide there ubuntu freindly room

ccfreak2k , yes, its just list my primary devices and thats it

what is the _primary_ difference between ubuntu and debian?

ubuntu is derived from debian ??

there are several differences

ubuntu pulls packages from sid and then rapidly stabilizes them, so its much more up to date. ubuntu also allows 'less free' software into its repos

ubuntu is owned by a commercial entity

hi

gotcha

ls

wellsaid at drbair

i need some help guys

mt

i need help with this:
1.

1. - solved

dry my ass
2.
masturbate with me
3.
fuck me
4. give me a joint

wtf

wtf?

5.
bye bye

well… that was odd

that had to be the best random spam i have ever seen

What is the default for CONFIG_HZ in the kernel for Debian 4.0?
It's Etch, appearently.

ccfreak2k, check your config. it's in /boot

I know what MINE is, but I want to know what the defaults are for the kernel(s).
I have no idea if Debian has alternate kernel packages, though.

so you don't have a debian kernel installed?

Well one is installed, and CONFIG_HZ is set to 250, but I heard that the default for 2.6 series kernels is 1000.
I'm still trying to piece it all together (I didn't do the upgrade on the system).

yey, now plugging network cable takes down wireless interface, and unplugging up

it appears to be 250.

For the default 486 kernel?

can you install from ISO without a an actual CD? or do you need a cd in place to install?

TylerJGillies if you can boot to linux you could maybe, but there's usually more efficient methods to install

Kevin`: like?

TylerJGillies network boot

Kevin`: can't WLAN card

TylerJGillies which wlan card
chipset, rather

linksys wmp54g

chipset

chipset rt61

you CAN install from some wireless cards
oh is that a usb card?

PCI
ralink

well, that is a supported chipset by linux, it shouldn't be too hard to make a kernel with support for it if the default installer doesn't have it, which it might

ok

how do i get mkfs -t vfat to work on Debian? it says "mkfs.vfat: No such file or directory"

Kevin`: thnx

RockerMONO apt-get install dosfstools

thanks Kevin`

I have a package installed with unmet dependencies. How can I get apt to stop complaining about that when I try to do other things?

hello honorables
wow abrotman is still mia..

yup

!seen abrotman

'kenji: try it'.

huh?
2d?

how can /dev/fd0 have no corresponding BIOS drive when the comptuer will boot from floppy disks??
2 days, 20 hours, 26 minutes, 11 seconds =p

RockerMONO grub is confused, edit boot/grub/device.map

damn I missed all that rocking time

Kevin`: "(hd0) /dev/hda" - nothing else

add fd0..

Kevin`: what do i add?? "(fd0) /dev/fd0" ?

sure

is it possible to connect 3 different networks on same switch?

kauderwelsch yes

up to 5

ip networks on ethernet switch? sure

Kevin`: arpalert says no
strange alerts

kauderwelsch snowbird you can have more then 5, too. as many as you want

switches get big what u mean a network pc ?

debian server with 3 nics

why do you have 3 nics

3 different networks

if you have just one switch
you know you can assign multiple networks to one nic, right?

Judge rules SCO does now own Unix code. the website who posted this is overwhelmed, the world celebrates

xen?

Azar, s/now/not/

azar there was a wallop for that a while back

Kevin`: what's a wallop?

kauderwelsch you don't need special crap like that, you can do it directly with ifconfig or ip
kauderwelsch you can even do it in windows!
;p

SCO is mistaken, i own Unix

!RichiH:*! Hi yet again. Seems it is alindeman's birthday, which means you
are free to spam him with your well-wishes and offerings of virtual

Kevin`: what are you talking about?

that kinda thing.

i have as much claim to it anyway
brb installing

Kevin`: uh.. so it was some turbulence here huh?

a wallow is a special kind of message on irc
it's broadcast to all users (usually ops, but in this case anybody)

ahhhhh, now I remember, yes

wallop
*
speaking of ops, I want to be able to join more then the max number of channels, anyone I can talk to about that?

Kevin`: what's the max?

Kevin`: #freenode, surprisingly

Dewi however many i'm currently on, I haven't counted

set yourself +w if you want to receive them
we usually send out one per month, though

RichiH thanks

rough estimate, of course

Dewi wc says 20

np

awake still? :-)

nope

hmm, in order to join #freenode to ask for more channels i'd have to leave a channel, decisions
hmm, in order to join #freenode to ask for more channels i'd have to leave a channel, decisions

lol Kevin`

Kevin`: just clone

hm, good idea
I should write an irc client that controls two clients or something
might be easier to just leave a channel

Kevin`: most irc clients support multiple networks, and hence cloning.

I don't think this one does, I should upgrade to irssi

hm, i trink the bottle wine empty and see what happens then ;-)

Kevin`: I use irssi on a total of 6 networks (actually that's 2 irssis)

eww, wine
beer!

and on one I have two nicks to the same network, exactly because of the channel number restriction. Might want to do that.

Is it possible, using xine, to stream a DVD over the network?

i'll try asking nicely first. maybe tomorrow

anyone have a lil expreience with apache modules? http://pastebin.com/m5b88d47b - in there the right uid (set_homedir) is set but it always reads 0 .(get_homedir)

edju I usually do that using nfs or samba, which works fine

Kevin`, nfs? I have that set up for an external drive. How to use it to play a DVD/

edju I rip the dvd first, I usually don't mess with the discs..

Kevin`, Then just play the vob directly?

edju No, play the directory
otherwise you don't get the menus and proper title arrangement

finally! LF hires legal advisors…

(all the common dvd players you'd use are capable of playing a dvd from a directory)

let's see what they say about the blobs in the kernel

I need some help with groups. I am trying to use newgrp to change my group, and it does not seem to let me.

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